464. Adult dog paper training
Toilet Training an adult dog in Singapore
--- On Sun, 10/25/09, ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: ...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 1:14 PM
Dear Dr Sing,
i have a 9 month-old whippet puppy that stubbornly refuses to relieve and poo on newspaper, so it appears.
She has been previously trained to relieve and poo on 2 sheets of newspaper while she was staying at another caregiver's home. The newspapers were placed in the kitchen area. Due to some reasons, the family is unable to care for her anymore. So, she is currently at my home. I have a 7 year-old dog myself.
When she came over to my place, we laid out the newspaper in the kitchen area and showed her where it was placed. She looked, then ran away. In the very next instance, she peed elsewhere in the flat. we picked her up, chided her and showed her the right place to go, but to no avail. however, she has only peed and pooed at the right place the most 4 times over these past 3 weeks. on one occasion, she copied my dog
She was praised each time she relieved herself at the right place and chided when she did it at any other spot in the flat. She tends to relieve herself wherever she walks, when she feels the urge or when she is excited. She sniffs around a little, then walk away to another spot to pee or poo. I have walked her to the newspaper and pointed it out to her many times over. But she would walk away and relieve herself somewhere else moments later. only when i confine her that she would poo or pee, never both.
Can you advise me how I could retrain her to go on paper? I am at my wits' end, because I have tried every method that worked on my previous dogs but failed on her.
By the way, we bought her from the petshop when she was close to 7 months old.
With regards,
Name of owner
Re: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:33 PM
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Adult dogs are harder to paper train. In your case, I suspect that the other dog is a factor affecting her paper training as the urine scent from the other dog (despite you putting newspapers on the floor) had, based on your description, caused her to "urine mark" or seek new areas to pee and poop. No normal dogs like to eliminate on another dog's soiled area (although you have covered with newspapers).
I need to know more about her management.
How long is she with you since you took over from the care giver?
How many times you feed her?
Is water freely available?
What is her exercise routine? Does she go out?
How many times and when does she pee and when does she poo?
Is she doing urine-marking?
Does she pee when excited?
Is she on heat?
Is she having urinary tract infection or other infections?
In the meantime, try this:
1. Tether the whippet in an area with newspapers covering 100% of the area.
2. Use white vinegar at 1 part vinegar and 3 parts water to wipe the floor of the leashed area neutralise the urine smells of the other dog and this dog.
3. Keep the other dog away from her for the next 2-4 weeks (I don't know how you can do it).
4. Change soiled newspapers promptly.
5. Give firm commands: "Pee here" when you see possible signs of elimination if possible. Use your positive training of food treats rewards and praises on successful performance.
6. You need to tether for at least 2-4 weeks. Persevere and be consistent in your training. 7. A fixed feeding and exercise time table for the next 2-4 weeks.
Let me know if this helps.
--- On Mon, 10/26/09,
Subject: RE: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:37 AM
thank you for your prompt reply. really appreciate it.
my other dog pees and poo in the kitchen toilet while i am training her to go in the master bedroom toilet after the kitchen floor failed. the interesting point was once she copied the other dog and peed in the kitchen toilet straight after he did his. then she repeated it there once other. she was praised when we saw her go in the toilet. then she forgot.
Questions:
How long is she with you since you took over from the care giver?
- i have her for about 3 weeks now.
How many times you feed her?
- i feed her once in the morning
Is water freely available?
- yes
What is her exercise routine? Does she go out?
- once about 2 days or so. she does not pee much when she's out.
How many times and when does she pee and when does she poo?
- Peeing : 1x after waking, 1x halfway or after eating, 1x in the evening when i get home, sometimes out of the blue
- Pooing: 1x after waking, mostly again after eating
Is she doing urine-marking?
- no, she doesn't
Does she pee when excited?
- yes, most of the time. she only pees and poos when i get home, even though there are other people in the house throughout the day.
- poos when excited too. when she goes out, she will poo once she gets out of the house or car.
Is she on heat?
- no
Is she having urinary tract infection or other infections?
- not that i am aware of
As for your advice, do i keep her tethered the whole day? should feeding be done in the area as well?
REPLY Oct 27, 2009
Thank you for more information on the management of the Whippet.
1. It seems that your Whippet has this excitation or submissive urination behaviour. This is a difficult problem to resolve. Try not to greet her when you go home from work and let her gain self-confidence. This will take time.
2. As most dogs go to urine-scented area to eliminate, it is possible that your residence is full of urine smells. Therefore, your new Whippet pees here and there, puzzling you. You need to neutralise all areas promptly. This is one reason why pet owners who use pee pans so as not to soil the floor. The puppy then uses the pee pan to eliminate.
3. Tethering is a form of confinement and must be done 24 hours for the next 2-4 weeks. Feeding and water bowls are within that area. Newspapers cover the whole area and get reduced to the area where the dog eliminates. This takes time.
E-MAIL OCT 27, 2009
From: ...@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:47 AM
Prior to my other dog, we had my brother's Sheltie. But both dogs only eliminate in the bathroom. We also mop the floor with vinegar once every week.
Now, when I get home from work, I try my best to ignore her and pet my other dog, though not excessively. This is when she gets jealous and will also pee or poo wherever. Another point is she follows me wherever I go in the house. She is very attention-seeking in this aspect. Should I ignore her when she craves for my attention?
As I am rather busy this period, I plan to start the tethering only later next month. In the meantime, I have taken to putting her in the bathroom first thing in the morning, immediately after feeding, when i get home, after she drinks or eat. i hope it would do for now.
E-MAIL REPLY FROM DR SING, Oct 28, 2009
Tethering or confinement to a room, both with newspapers on the floor give the same outcome for paper training. Therefore it is OK. For attention-seeking dogs, my opinion is that you should not provoke jealousy by paying special attention to one dog. Sounds like "sibling rivalry" to me. You may need to be "assertive" and "authoritative" in your treatment of both dogs. I hope you know what I mean. Firm voice commands and actions. Easier said than done. It is hard to change one's personality but dogs look to you as the leader of the pack.
Updates are at www.toapayohvets.com
Le me know if you need more info
--- On Sun, 10/25/09, ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: ...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 1:14 PM
Dear Dr Sing,
i have a 9 month-old whippet puppy that stubbornly refuses to relieve and poo on newspaper, so it appears.
She has been previously trained to relieve and poo on 2 sheets of newspaper while she was staying at another caregiver's home. The newspapers were placed in the kitchen area. Due to some reasons, the family is unable to care for her anymore. So, she is currently at my home. I have a 7 year-old dog myself.
When she came over to my place, we laid out the newspaper in the kitchen area and showed her where it was placed. She looked, then ran away. In the very next instance, she peed elsewhere in the flat. we picked her up, chided her and showed her the right place to go, but to no avail. however, she has only peed and pooed at the right place the most 4 times over these past 3 weeks. on one occasion, she copied my dog
She was praised each time she relieved herself at the right place and chided when she did it at any other spot in the flat. She tends to relieve herself wherever she walks, when she feels the urge or when she is excited. She sniffs around a little, then walk away to another spot to pee or poo. I have walked her to the newspaper and pointed it out to her many times over. But she would walk away and relieve herself somewhere else moments later. only when i confine her that she would poo or pee, never both.
Can you advise me how I could retrain her to go on paper? I am at my wits' end, because I have tried every method that worked on my previous dogs but failed on her.
By the way, we bought her from the petshop when she was close to 7 months old.
With regards,
Name of owner
Re: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:33 PM
From:
This sender is DomainKeys verified
"David Sing"
View contact details
To: <...@hotmail.com>
Adult dogs are harder to paper train. In your case, I suspect that the other dog is a factor affecting her paper training as the urine scent from the other dog (despite you putting newspapers on the floor) had, based on your description, caused her to "urine mark" or seek new areas to pee and poop. No normal dogs like to eliminate on another dog's soiled area (although you have covered with newspapers).
I need to know more about her management.
How long is she with you since you took over from the care giver?
How many times you feed her?
Is water freely available?
What is her exercise routine? Does she go out?
How many times and when does she pee and when does she poo?
Is she doing urine-marking?
Does she pee when excited?
Is she on heat?
Is she having urinary tract infection or other infections?
In the meantime, try this:
1. Tether the whippet in an area with newspapers covering 100% of the area.
2. Use white vinegar at 1 part vinegar and 3 parts water to wipe the floor of the leashed area neutralise the urine smells of the other dog and this dog.
3. Keep the other dog away from her for the next 2-4 weeks (I don't know how you can do it).
4. Change soiled newspapers promptly.
5. Give firm commands: "Pee here" when you see possible signs of elimination if possible. Use your positive training of food treats rewards and praises on successful performance.
6. You need to tether for at least 2-4 weeks. Persevere and be consistent in your training. 7. A fixed feeding and exercise time table for the next 2-4 weeks.
Let me know if this helps.
--- On Mon, 10/26/09,
Subject: RE: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:37 AM
thank you for your prompt reply. really appreciate it.
my other dog pees and poo in the kitchen toilet while i am training her to go in the master bedroom toilet after the kitchen floor failed. the interesting point was once she copied the other dog and peed in the kitchen toilet straight after he did his. then she repeated it there once other. she was praised when we saw her go in the toilet. then she forgot.
Questions:
How long is she with you since you took over from the care giver?
- i have her for about 3 weeks now.
How many times you feed her?
- i feed her once in the morning
Is water freely available?
- yes
What is her exercise routine? Does she go out?
- once about 2 days or so. she does not pee much when she's out.
How many times and when does she pee and when does she poo?
- Peeing : 1x after waking, 1x halfway or after eating, 1x in the evening when i get home, sometimes out of the blue
- Pooing: 1x after waking, mostly again after eating
Is she doing urine-marking?
- no, she doesn't
Does she pee when excited?
- yes, most of the time. she only pees and poos when i get home, even though there are other people in the house throughout the day.
- poos when excited too. when she goes out, she will poo once she gets out of the house or car.
Is she on heat?
- no
Is she having urinary tract infection or other infections?
- not that i am aware of
As for your advice, do i keep her tethered the whole day? should feeding be done in the area as well?
REPLY Oct 27, 2009
Thank you for more information on the management of the Whippet.
1. It seems that your Whippet has this excitation or submissive urination behaviour. This is a difficult problem to resolve. Try not to greet her when you go home from work and let her gain self-confidence. This will take time.
2. As most dogs go to urine-scented area to eliminate, it is possible that your residence is full of urine smells. Therefore, your new Whippet pees here and there, puzzling you. You need to neutralise all areas promptly. This is one reason why pet owners who use pee pans so as not to soil the floor. The puppy then uses the pee pan to eliminate.
3. Tethering is a form of confinement and must be done 24 hours for the next 2-4 weeks. Feeding and water bowls are within that area. Newspapers cover the whole area and get reduced to the area where the dog eliminates. This takes time.
E-MAIL OCT 27, 2009
From: ...@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Paper Training 9 month-old whippet
To: drsing_98@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:47 AM
Prior to my other dog, we had my brother's Sheltie. But both dogs only eliminate in the bathroom. We also mop the floor with vinegar once every week.
Now, when I get home from work, I try my best to ignore her and pet my other dog, though not excessively. This is when she gets jealous and will also pee or poo wherever. Another point is she follows me wherever I go in the house. She is very attention-seeking in this aspect. Should I ignore her when she craves for my attention?
As I am rather busy this period, I plan to start the tethering only later next month. In the meantime, I have taken to putting her in the bathroom first thing in the morning, immediately after feeding, when i get home, after she drinks or eat. i hope it would do for now.
E-MAIL REPLY FROM DR SING, Oct 28, 2009
Tethering or confinement to a room, both with newspapers on the floor give the same outcome for paper training. Therefore it is OK. For attention-seeking dogs, my opinion is that you should not provoke jealousy by paying special attention to one dog. Sounds like "sibling rivalry" to me. You may need to be "assertive" and "authoritative" in your treatment of both dogs. I hope you know what I mean. Firm voice commands and actions. Easier said than done. It is hard to change one's personality but dogs look to you as the leader of the pack.
Updates are at www.toapayohvets.com
Le me know if you need more info
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